Thursday, October 07, 2010


There was an astonishing harmonic convergence Tuesday at a Washington conference on the nation’s economic and fiscal future.

Martin Feldstein, Ronald Reagan’s former chief economist, Paul Krugman of The New York Times and Princeton University and Jan Hatzius, chief economist of Goldman Sachs, all called for far more aggressive economic intervention.

All three, representing the left, right and center of their profession, agreed that a deep economic slump is likely to continue indefinitely, in the absence of a much larger stimulus program and more short-run deficit spending than any mainstream politician is currently proposing.

In my 40 years covering economics and finance, I’ve never seen a more alarming disconnect between the economic and the political — or higher stakes.

These unlikely viewpoints on the economy were brought together by four think tanks — Demos, the Economic Policy Institute, The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities and the Century Foundation — seeking to counter what has become Washington conventional wisdom on the need for deficit reduction.

Krugman, asked when the economy would return to full employment, replied, “Basically never” — unless we get a huge stimulus comparable to the most recent “recovery to full employment” from a global financial crisis “known as World War II.”

No surprise there. But Feldstein (right) quickly agreed. According to the former Reagan adviser, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 spending tried to fill a “GDP gap” of about $1 trillion a year with about $800 billion spread over at least three years. “So we never got liftoff. We never got a recovery,” Feldstein said.

“The various temporary measures that we had,” Feldstein added, “the Cash for Clunkers, the first-time homebuyers [credit] — they’re finished.”

Feldstein joined Krugman in calling for more stimulus, including a far more aggressive program of mortgage relief to offset the drag of nearly one in three homeowners having a mortgage worth more than the value of the house. That, warned Feldstein, deepens the slump.

On the other hand, he said, “if housing prices are beginning to go up, consumers are going to have more confidence. They’re going to spend more.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43219_Page2.html


All three economists - Feldstein,  Hatziusag and Krugman agreed that a lower dollar wouldn’t help much, because, as Krugman observed, the two natural currencies against which the dollar might depreciate, the yen and the euro, have even less investor confidence. “We are really talking about a race between the halt, the lame and the blind here,” Krugman said.


All three economists warned that growth is slowing, not increasing; that unemployment is stuck on a plateau; and that no policies or natural recovery trends on the near horizon were likely to reverse that course.

The surprise was not that Krugman was a deficit dove but that the concern about a long-term economic stagnation extends across the spectrum of economists.

This debate is less left vs. right than one between high-minded centrists, who use fiscal austerity as an emblem of public virtue, and professional economists worried about the prospect of a 1930s-style indefinite and self-deepening slump.

The problem is not that there are no solutions. A more aggressive fiscal and monetary policy could provide more jobs, consumer purchasing power and more business investment. A more interventionist approach to mortgage relief and banking reform could overcome the drag of the banking and housing sectors.

The problem is that the solutions are beyond respectable political and legislative discourse — and deficit hawks seem to have the ear of elite opinion.

3 comments:

Pavle Mihajlović said...

Ako prvobitna intervencija, ogromnih razmera nije imala efekta, kako će to sada sledeća intervencija imati efekta? I ko će platiti tu novu intervenciju? Zar to neće dovesti do ograničavanja dugoročnog rasta ili stagflacije?

Danica Popović said...

Ali ipak ekspanzivna politika jeste imala efekta. U onoj krizi iz 1929 nisu uradjene 3 stvari:
1.fiskalni stimulus
2. ekspanzivna monetarna
3. zadržavanje stepena zaštite na istom nivou (SAD podigla carine na 70%, itd)

i efekat je bio da je GDP pao za 30% . A sada nije pao ni 5%, sto svakako jeste rezultat ekspanzivne politike i politike ne-zatvaranja granica.

Evo da ponovim ovaj citat Martina Wolfa

A recent paper by Alan Blinder, former vice-chairman of the Fed, and Mark Zandi of Moody’s argues that such critics are wrong. ( They conclude that the peak to trough decline in gross domestic product would have been close to 12 per cent with no policy response, compared to an actual decline of just 4 per cent (see chart). Similarly, the unemployment rate would have peaked at 16.5 per cent, instead of the actual 10 per cent. The bigger collapse would also have meant a fiscal deficit of $2,600bn in fiscal year 2011. The outcome is also disastrous with the modest fiscal response but no financial policy response.

Tako da ipak ne treba biti slep - kejnzijanci jesu pobedili monetariste, kada je reč o tome da se iz duboke krize najbrže vadi ekspanzivnim politikama, to je deo korpusa ekonomskih znanja, zaboga.

Ali monetaristi su takođe pobedili - empirijski je potrvrdjeno da su agregatne fluktuacije u osnovi - efikasna reakcija na egzogene sokove!!!!

Tako da stvarno mislim da na ekonomskom blogu nema mesta tvrdnji da intervencija nije dala efekta.

Pavle Mihajlović said...

Ok prihvatam, nisam to dobro video.